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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2005 14:54    Post subject: Saudi Size field in Nevada Reply with quote

There maybe more oil than the majors think ,at 15000 feet.. Check out this Claim:

Eden Energy Corp.

Ely Times- Eden Energy seeks oil near Ely

They estimate their Noah prospect in the billions of barrels, and I found this today, Their head geologist is talking Trillions of barrels in the whole structure because of the thickness of the source rock:


Alan K. Chamberlain, Cedar Strat Corp.

11:30 am, Tuesday, June 29, 2004


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The central Nevada thrust belt provides an opportunity to explore for giant oil and gas fields. Thick, thermally mature, organic-rich, lacustrine oil shales deposited in the Mississippian Antler basin flood plains are the source beds for the fifty million barrels of oil already produced in Nevada. Karsted unconformities, stromatoporoid reefs, impact breccias, and sandstones make Nevada's Devonian reservoir rocks most favorable for giant accumulations. Late Cretaceous thrusting created the compressional features of the prolific Canadian foothills, Utah/Wyoming thrust belt and the central Nevada thrust belt.

Typically, oil seeps are associated with oilbearing thrust belts worldwide. However, a blanket of Tertiary volcanics sealed in many of Nevada's oil seeps and concealed Nevada's thrust belt. Some of these seeps, including Grant Canyon, Blackburn, Trap Spring, and Eagle Springs oil fields, built up enough oil to become commercial. So far, all of Nevada's crude has been produced from these commercial oil seeps. Little effort has been expended to identify the source of these commercial oil seeps because of the lack of an accurate geologic map and model. In contrast to other states, the State of Nevada has never surveyed its mineral potential. The cursory geologic mapping by the federal government is not adequate for exploration purposes. Old depositional and deformational models, based on insufficient data, have been entrenched into the literature, thus impeding exploration. An old model championed by the United States Geological Survey is the theory that the Mississippian Antler Basin siliciclastics were deposited as flysch turbidites into a deep foreland basin between the Antler highlands in central Nevada and the Utah hingeline in central Utah. However, new field data indicates regressive sequences containing vascular plant roots (Stigmaria) penetrating bedding planes and lacustrine palynomorph assemblages. This new data dispels the old model and supports a new depositional environment model. The new model shows that the richest and most oilprone Mississippian source rocks are lacustrine oil shales. Lacustrine oil shales make oil exploration in the Antler Basin very attractive. Cumulative thicknesses of these world-class lacustrine oil source rocks are measured in thousands of feet in outcrops and wells. They are thick enough and rich enough to generate trillions of barrels of oil.

Until the early 1980s the typical exploration practice in Nevada was to drill just the Tertiary valley fill in synclines.Therefore, most of the eight hundred wells drilled in Nevada penetrate only syncline Tertiary valley fill. Few wells have penetrated any Paleozoic section. However, two significant fields were found by drilling "too deep" and penetrating Devonian rocks below the Tertiary unconformity. Oil flows from Devonian reservoirs in the Blackburn and Grant Canyon oil fields. One well in Grant Canyon flowed 4,000 barrels a day for ten years. It has now produced more than 15,000,000 barrels of oil since its discovery in 1983. The Grant Canyon reservoir consists of 200 to 400 feet of karst breccia at the top of the Middle Devonian Simonson Formation. This karst interval is found in wells and measured sections throughout the eastern Great Basin. In addition to the karst interval, stromatoporoid reefs, impact breccia, quartz sandstones, and other intervals provide world-class reservoir rocks within the eastern Great Basin Devonian sequences.An isopach of all the Devonian sequences reveals a structurally compressed basin –the Sunnyside Basin – and can be used to predict the spacial distribution of potential Devonian reservoir rocks. The Simonson karst breccia interval alone has the capacity to store billions of barrels of oil in certain structures.A careful analysis of logs from the few wells that penetrated other significant portions of Paleozoic rocks shows that, contrary to preconceived notions, many intervals contain similar reservoir rocks. Another deeply entrenched notion that discouraged exploration investment is that the north-south structural grain of the eastern Great Basin was caused by Tertiary extension which could have compromised seals on older, compressional structures. However, new mapping is revealing many uncharted compressional features and a lack of extensional features. The new maps demonstrate that the region underwent much more compression than previously thought. Furthermore, some of these features show no evidence of being broken by major Tertiary extensional faults. Several unbroken compressional structures in the Timpahute Range, 50 miles south of the prolific Grant Canyon field, are exposed. Another example of an intact compressional feature is the Golden Gate fault fold 40 miles south southeast of the prolific Grant Canyon field and ten miles north of the Timpahute Range.The Golden Gate fault fold is ten miles long and five miles wide and has more than five thousand feet of closure. It may have trapped billions of barrels of oil before it was breached by headward erosion of the Colorado River.New mapping reveals that no Tertiary extensional faults compromise the structure. Similar structures, along strike that have escaped erosion, likely contain billions of barrels of oil and trillions of cubic feet of gas. Oil seeping from these giant fields is probably the source for the commercial oil seep fields in Nevada.However, old opinion and theories based on little or poor geologic mapping have obscured the true understanding of Nevada geology for at least five decades. As a result, past oil exploration efforts in Nevada based on old tectonic and depositional models have been disappointing.


Alan K. Chamberlain received his B.A. and M.S. from Brigham Young University and his Ph.D. from Colorado School of Mines. His dissertation, Structural Geology and Devonian Stratigraphy of the Timpahute Range, Nevada, provides a new exploration model that could lead to significant discoveries in this frontier region. After he worked for Exxon, Gulf, Marathon, and Placid, he became president of Cedar Strat Corp. in 1984.

Cedar Strat was organized at the request of several major oil companies to fill a need for exploration data for Great Basin exploration. Alan conceived the idea of using a scintillation counter to create a surface gamma-ray log of measured sections while working for Gulf Oil after having worked for Exxon Minerals USA in uranium exploration. It was not until Placid hired him away from Marathon to head up their Great Basin program that he had the freedom to test the idea. At Placid, Alan had the unique opportunity to visit many of Shell Oil Company's staked measured sections by helicopter with former Shell geologists. They had been involved in measuring the sections in the 1950s and 1960s. Using the Shell measured sections he learned the Paleozoic stratigraphy of the Great Basin. As he remeasured many of the sections, he applied his new technique of surface gamma-ray logs. He earned the Best Poster of the Session Award at the 1983 National American Association of Petroleum Geologists when he presented his work on surface gamma-ray logs in the Wyoming thrust belt and in the Great Basin. His abstract and subsequent paper attracted the attention of national and international oil companies that have applied his surface gamma-ray log technique worldwide. Development of this successful technique resulted in the formation of Cedar Strat Corp. in 1984. A presentation to the American Association of Petroleum Geologists of the results of Alan's new, sequence stratigraphic model of the Mississippian Antler Basin including lacustrine source rocks secured him the Levorson Award in the late 1980s.

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PostPosted: 16 Aug 2005 04:40    Post subject: POST FROM ANOTHER FORUM Reply with quote

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I wish them luck, but I don't see it as a good investment for oil or gas production given their posted data.

Source rock is Mississippian lacustrine oil shales with organic content averaging between 3% and 6% and thousands of feet thickness.

Oil shale is not a good source rock for petroluem. It is way too hydrogen-deficient, and the organics are bound to the clay fraction of the rock. Diagenesis could give you pyrolysis and oil release, but that product would be highly unsaturated and prone to repolymerization. Much more severe conditions would give you cracking to natural gas, but they claim things were mild over time.

Pyrolysis of Colorado oil shale, in situ by combustion or mined and surface processed by heat exchange, gets you rivers of shale oil. It is the perfect refinery poison:

1) It is heavily unsaturated. Even refinery hydrogen costs a fortune.
2) It is rich with nitrogen. That kills the acid zeolite support in your reforming catalyst.
3) It has a nice arsenic content. That kills the noble metal in your reforming catalyst.
4) It has a pour point not much below room temp. That makes pipeline transportation somewhat interesting.

DO YOU WANT GUARANTEED CHEAP BIG OIL PRODUCTION FROM DOMESTIC FIELDS? Drown some Enviro-whiners and re-open the Santa Barbara Channel oil fields in Southern California. It's that simple and fool-proof. It's an ocean of oil sitting under the asses of a few sea otters.

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PostPosted: 16 Aug 2005 15:06    Post subject: Reply to Uncle AL Reply with quote

By: blanketpower
16 Aug 2005, 02:34 AM EDT Msg. 1112 of 1116
(Msg. is a reply to 1111 by erichknight.)
Re: scienceforum post

The guy's data is specific to the area and type of rock he is talking about (Colorado oil shales). Has nothing to do with EDEN. At EDEN we are NOT talking about the pyrolysis of oil shales (mining and "cracking" of oil-bearing shales, similar to mining Athabasca "tar sands"). Rather, we are talking about the pumping of trapped oil from dolomitic reservoir formations, with lacustrine shale as the original source rock.

Here are a couple of (the many available) examples of commercial oil derived from lacustrine shales as the source rock:

A large proportion of Oklahoma's oil resources are derived originally from shale (Woodford shale, for example) but are not extracted from the shale itself - the viable deposits are found in formations adjacent to the shale that have trapped oil that was squeezed (squozen?) out over time.

Equatorial Guinea is another example - world class oil and gas hosted in sandstone, but the source rock is underlying lacustrine shales from Kissenda and Melania formations.

These examples are the type of thing that EDEN is talking about - in our case, Mississippian lacustrine shales overlain by porous dolomites. If you drill into the shale itself you find the kind of hydrocarbon-bearing crap that poster is talking about (relatively common in eastern Nevada, and uneconomical), but if you have a sealed reservoir over the shale (in our case a very porous Devonian dolomite) you may be in business.

That is what makes EDEN attractive. We know the original source rock (shale) is all over the place, and is hydrocarbon rich. We also know that the source rock is overlain by a porous formation, and that the geological structures (anticlines) are in place that (a) show evidence of tectonic compression; and (b) have created generally enclosing structures. We also know that within the overall anticline several terminal structures are in place that would serve as specific trap-points for the oil.

(Note: Anticlines are sort of like railway tunnels in shape... long structures with big domed roofs, but open at the ends where the train enters and leaves. Open anticlines tend not to trap oil - when compressed it leaves via the ends of the tunnel. Terminal structures are analogous to roof collapses in the tunnel. They create "dead ends" within the tunnels where oil can accumulate. That's why the recent news was so significant - several of these terminal structures are present within our anticline). All of the pieces are in place for a world class deposit. Still not a guarantee, but a very good bet.

I have not been a geologist for over 20 years, and do not feel like getting into a p*ssing match with some new college grad with a shiny diploma and un-scuffed field boots who wants to show the world how brilliant he is. It has been too long a time - I would lose. I will gladly defer to a better explanation from a more recent practitioner of the art, but thought I would post this from what is left of my crusty, half-dead geological memory in an effort to put your mind at ease.

Good luck to all.
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PostPosted: 11 Oct 2005 22:42    Post subject: Chamberlain's Golden Support Reply with quote

Here is interesting work going on that supports Alan K. Chamberlain's findings , He's the Geologist that Eden Energy is basing their efforts on.

From: kennnthomas@...
Date: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:21 pm
Subject: "bolstering the geothermal/oil/gold connection " kennnthomas2000
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Assessing the Role of Active and Ancient Geothermal Processes in
Oil-Reservoir Evolution in the Basin and Range Province
PERSON IN CHARGE: Jeffrey B. Hulen (801-581-8794; Fax 801-585-3540;
E-mail jhulen@...)
Objectives: The project is structured around investigation of the
premise that active and ancient moderate-temperature hydrothermal
systems, by various means, have been instrumental in the generation,
migration, and entrapment of oil in the Basin and Range province of the
western United States.
Project Description: The eastern Basin and Range encompasses several
shallow and hot (<2 km; up to 130°C) oil fields (for example Blackburn
and Grant Canyon/Bacon Flat) that geologically resemble the Carlin-type,
Paleozoic sediment-hosted gold deposits occurring in the same
region—in particular those of the southern Alligator Ridge mining
district about midway between the towns of Elko and Ely, Nevada. We are
investigating the distinct possibility that at least some of these gold
deposits are the exhumed and oxidized, paleogeothermal analogues of the
modern, exploited geothermal oil fields. Our approach is
multidisciplinary, involving (1) detailed geologic mapping, (2) logging
of drill cuttings and cores, with emphasis on alteration, porosity
characteristics, vein mineralization and paragenesis, and hydrocarbon
type and distribution, (3) three-dimensional stratigraphic/structural
analysis to allow reconstruction of fluid-flow paths used by both
thermal waters and hydrocarbons, (4) fluid-inclusion microthermometry,
to ascertain the compositions and temperatures of these fluids at
different times during the duration of the hydrothermal system, (5)
whole-rock and vein-mineral geochemistry, (6) hydrogeochemistry of
oil-field vs. regional
waters, and (7) stable-isotopic systematics of thermal waters and vein
and alteration minerals.
Results: During the past year, we have mapped several small, new
open-pit gold mines in the southern Alligator Ridge district, adding new
details to the stratigraphic/structural and hydrothermal picture
previously established for this area. All the new mines penetrate the
same oil-bearing, altered, and mineralized Paleozoic sedimentary
sequence encountered in prior excavations. The oil, freely-flowing and
in fluid inclusions, occurs within and around both low- and high-grade
gold ore bodies. From detailed petrographic and fluid-inclusion work
coupled with field relationships, the oil appears to have been
introduced in the same hydrothermal system responsible for the
precious-metal mineralization. The temperature of mineralization
apparently did not exceed 130°C. This surprising finding is confirmed
not only by pressure-corrected, fluid-inclusion homogenization
temperatures but also by temperature-dependent biomarker transformation
preserved by hydrocarbons in oil-rich fluid inclusions. There is a
distinct depletion in 1/16O of the oil-bearing ore bodies' wall rocks
relative to their unaltered and unmineralized counterparts. Two deep oil
wells completed in the immediate area penetrated neither intrusive rocks
nor sedimentary rocks hydrothermally altered at high temperatures. One
of these wells, just a mile from the ore bodies, bored through the
hydrocarbon source rocks, which at this location and depth were shown by
Rock-Eval pyrolysis to be near peak oil-gen
eration capacity. It now appears highly likely that the gold-depositing
hydrothermal system was directly responsible here for the generation,
migration, and entrapment of oil; however, we still do not know to what
extent, if any, the oil actually contributed to the mineralization
process. In other words, the formation of this particular fossil oil
reservoir may well have been just a beneficial side effect of the
ore-forming hydrothermal event. By contrast, at another oil-rich gold
deposit, Gold Point near Ely, we have determined that hydrocarbons were
crucial to mineralization, most likely providing highly adsorptive
substrates for electrum precipitation.
In huge Railroad Valley, about 25 km southwest of Gold Point and the
site of most of Nevada's oil production, our study of oil-well
drill-stem-test temperatures has indicated that the western side of this
fault-bounded valley is probably a major regional hydrologic downflow
zone, whereas the eastern side, along which the hottest oil fields
occur, is a region of localized geo
thermal upflow of the same waters. These geothermal plumes have fostered
the maturation of hydrocarbon source rocks as well as the migration and
entrapment of the newly generated oils. A pilot study of the regional
hydrocarbon-sealing mechanism in this valley has indicated that
volcanic-ash-rich beds at the base of the valley-fill sequence have been
widely altered to montmorillonite, thereby inhibiting the escape of oils
structurally entrapped in underlying Tertiary ignimbrites and brecciated
Paleozoic dolomites. At Kyle Hot Springs, near Winnemucca in western
Nevada, an active, moderate-temperature geothermal system has generated
paraffin-rich heavy crude oils from hypersaline-lacustrine Tertiary
source rocks, which are otherwise well below the favorable
oil-generation "window." The Kyle system, in a more energetic early
phase, also precipitated hydrocarbon- and gold-bearing siliceous sinter,
bolstering the geothermal/oil/gold connection we have been documenting
in the eastern part of the state.
Department of Geology and Geophysics
717 Browning Building
Salt Lake City, Utah 84112
GRANT: DE-FG03-93ER14313
TITLE: High Resolution Imaging of Electrical Conductivity Using Low
Frequency Electromagnetic Fields
PERSON IN CHARGE: Dr. Alan C. Tripp (801-462-2112 or 801-581-4664; Fax
801-581-7065; E-mail actripp@...)
Objectives: The project seeks to determine means of increasing the
resolution of low frequency electromagnetic techniques by means of an
optimal use of a priori information.

And there is More company in Nevada, And the last round of oil/gas lease auctions were way up in numbers and prices.

By OGJ editors

HOUSTON, Oct. 6 -- PetroWorld Nevada Corp., George Town, Grand Cayman, began acquiring 19 line-miles of 2D seismic data to verify closure on the Gabbs Valley prospect in western Nye County. Expected acquisition cost is $300,000.

PetroWorld has an exclusive agreement with Cortez Exploration LLC, holder of 90% equity interest in the 44,000-acre prospect, to acquire seismic data over the 12 by 7 mile surface anticline (OGJ Online, July 22, 2004). A well drilled by unrelated entities on the east side of the anticline established the presence of hydrocarbons in the Tertiary section.

Empire Petroleum Corp., Tulsa, Okla., holds the other 10%.

PetroWorld also holds oil and gas interests in Thailand.

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PostPosted: 17 Mar 2006 20:46    Post subject: Eden Claim gets Realy BIG Reply with quote

Dear Folks:
How much oil is in Nevada?
Dr. Alan Chamberlain, this week, stated his estimates, that there is almost 1.9 TRILLION barrels of oil in the state. Mind you, since the 1850s, when the first oil was pumped in Pennsylvania, until now, total worldwide oil production is only 1 trillion barrels. Further, many experts (Deffeyes in Hubbert's Peak, for instance) believe that 2 trillion barrels is the total original world supply, meaning we only have 1 trillion left in the whole world. Chamberlain is now on the record as stating that he thinks there is roughly as much oil in Nevada as the rest of the world put together ever had. Any thoughts on this? If Eden Energy finds a couple of billion barrels, investors are rich beyond their collective imaginations; but a couple of trillion barrels?? That number just seems impossibly big.

I saw an article about Chevron having a nanotech process for
tar sand oil that's so efficient that $35 oil will be profitable. What if they could develope this tech for CO2 injection?......
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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2006 03:35    Post subject: 1.89 Trillion link Reply with quote

Here's the link citing Chamberlain saying there are 1.89 trillion
barrels of oil in Nevada --
Geologist says White Pine must keep public lands open for oil exploration
Claims undiscovered oil reserves are '10 times' Saudi Arabia's

And last Friday, 3/24, there was a follow-up article --

County modifies wilderness area recommendations to allow oil and gas
Chamberlain identified an area in the White Pine Range in the
vicinity of Treasure Hill as one of the most important spots to search
for oil. . . He said the shale south of Wheeler Mountain is some of the richest organic material we've found in the state.
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